Cher isn't mincing words when it comes to her experiences in some of her iconic film roles, including the painfully dramatic biographical film Mask, and the lighter tone of her 1990 film with Winona Ryder and Christina Ricci, Mermaids.
The tone of the latter might have to do with the fact that Cher appeared to gain at least some control over who was behind the camera ... by getting its director fired.
The "Believe" singer opened up in a lengthy interview with The Times of London as part of her promotional tour for the first part of her just-released memoir, Cher: The Memoir, Part One.
"There are only two directors I didn't like," she shared. "Peter Bogdanovich and the guy from The Muppets." The latter refers to Frank Oz, who was involved with Mermaids for a time.
"I actually got the guy from The Muppets fired," Cher continued. "I said, 'Either you're going or I'm going,' which is a shame because he's a really good director, but he had a thing about me. He would go, 'At least my wife loves me!'"
While she didn't offer additional details of the tension between her and Oz, she did get into just how unpleasant things got on the set of the 1985 film, Mask, based on a true story.
Cher starred as the mother of Rocky (Eric Stoltz), a teen whose facial features are distorted due to him having craniodiaphyseal dyslpasia. Sam Elliott, Laura Dern, and Estelle Getty also starred in the film, which led to Golden Globe nominations for both Cher and Stoltz.
The classic film was helmed by director Bogdanovich, but the experience was clearly not positive for Cher. Nearly 40 years later, she still remembers it and did not mince words when talking about its director. whom she pointedly called an "a--hole."
"He was not nice to the girls in the film and he was so f--king arrogant. I really, really disliked him," Cher emphasized in the interview.
She went on to detail one incident where she and the director butted heads quite publicly. "He comes in and says, ‘Cher, where do you think we should film this scene?’ And I say, ‘Well, the kitchen is working pretty well, why don’t we do that again?’" she recalled.
"The next morning he arrives on set, eating an egg sandwich, and starts screaming that he’s not going to let me direct this film; I’m a nobody; he can cut me out at any moment," she continued. "Oh yeah, he was a pig."
The interviewer asked if she was trying to get involved with directing on the film, but Cher resisted that idea. "Ask everybody: I’m really easy to work with. I’m not arbitrary in the things I say, because it’s right to do what the director wants until you need to speak up."
She then shared some advice she received from Meryl Streep for how to get around direction you might not be a fan of as an actor. According to Cher, Streep told her, "If the director wants you to do something you don’t like, you say: yes, yes, yes, I’ll do it that way. Then you do it your way and they don’t even notice."
Bogdanovich passed away in 2022, but he'd previously spoken about their filming relationship, and it sounds like he didn't like her at least as much as she clearly doesn't like him.
"She didn’t trust anybody, particularly men. She doesn't like men," he told Vulture in 2019. "That’s why she’s named Cher: She dropped her father’s name. Sarkisian, it is."
"She can’t act. She won Best Actress at Cannes because I shot her very well. And she can’t sustain a scene," the late director continued. "She’d start off in the right direction, but she’d go off wrong somehow, very quickly."
Bogdanovich said he opted to shoot her close up "because she's very good in close-ups. Her eyes have the sadness of the world. You get to know her, you find out it’s self-pity, but still, it translates well in movies."
Two years after starring in Mask, Cher won the Golden Globe and Academy Award for Best Actress for her performance in Moonstruck opposite Nicolas Cage.
by Anonymous | reply 132 | November 27, 2024 12:15 AM |
[quote] I actually got the guy from The Muppets fired
She’s so fucking childish.
The man has a name she knows damn well what it is but she demeans and dehumanizes him by referring to him as “that guy from The Muppets.” It’s beyond immature and disrespectful and sounds inane coming from an 80-year-old woman.
And she wonders why he didn’t like her.
Cunt.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | November 24, 2024 10:54 PM |
she is a multi-talent who is also brave
by Anonymous | reply 2 | November 24, 2024 10:55 PM |
R2 = Cher, still fucking dyslexic.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | November 24, 2024 10:58 PM |
Cher had one great performance in her: Moonstruck. The rest of her screen work is meh.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | November 24, 2024 11:07 PM |
She was great in Mask.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | November 24, 2024 11:13 PM |
She fought and begged to be a movie star and then threw it all away because music was more lucrative.
What has she done, seven or eight movies total?
She deserves no respect as an actress and even less as a human.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | November 24, 2024 11:14 PM |
Brando asked Frank Oz if he wanted to stick his hand up his ass. Maybe the Muppet guy was the problem.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | November 24, 2024 11:15 PM |
These are old stories, by the way.
Any actual dirt in her book? That’s all anyone cares about.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | November 24, 2024 11:16 PM |
That wig is truly tragic.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | November 24, 2024 11:20 PM |
I’ve been surprised how good an actress she is every time I’ve seen her. She has such a naturally, or well-crafted, big persona but she can put it away completely.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | November 24, 2024 11:22 PM |
"Bogdanovich said he opted to shoot her close up "because she's very good in close-ups. Her eyes have the sadness of the world. You get to know her, you find out it’s self-pity, but still, it translates well in movies." HEH.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | November 24, 2024 11:23 PM |
[quote]She fought and begged to be a movie star and then threw it all away because music was more lucrative.
To be fair, she got the oscar and another nomination in such a short time.
Plus, she was having great success singing rock, which was another passion of hers. Her late 80's early 90's stuff is probably her best music.
I never got why she went with dance music and has stuck to it all these years. Going from many of her interviews, she hates dance music.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | November 24, 2024 11:27 PM |
I'm not a Cher fan generally, but I have to say I've greatly admired her acting in everything I've seen her in, including Moonstruck, Silkwood, and Mask. R10 is right that she knows how to restrain her big personality when she's in front of the screen. Very compelling and effective actor.
Bogdanovich was a notorious asshole in the first degree and nothing he said about Cher means shit.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | November 24, 2024 11:28 PM |
Her children appear to have many problems. This usually indicates an issue with the mother.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | November 24, 2024 11:30 PM |
I was (coincidentally) watching “Come Back to the 5 and Dime, Jimmy Dean, Jimmy Dean” last night. I like some Cher performances but she was certainly the weakest link in that movie. I didn’t realize how bad her teeth were either until I saw some of the closeups in that movie.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | November 24, 2024 11:32 PM |
[QUOTE] To be fair, she got the oscar and another nomination in such a short time.
To be fair, NO, ahe didn’t. She was never nominated again after she won Best Actress for Moonstruck.
DL is a gay board and your Oscar trivia needs to be on point if you’re going to play here.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | November 24, 2024 11:32 PM |
Neither of Cher’s children had children of their own. Her disastrous parenting probably swore both of them from keeping Cher’s gene pool alive.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | November 24, 2024 11:33 PM |
[quote]DL is a gay board and your Oscar trivia needs to be on point if you’re going to play here.
Then you should leave.
She got a nomination for Silkwood and won for Moonstruck. She was also snubbed for Mask.
That's an oscar win and a nomination.
Understand?
by Anonymous | reply 18 | November 24, 2024 11:37 PM |
[quote]Cher had one great performance in her: Moonstruck. The rest of her screen work is meh.
I thought Silkwood was her best.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | November 24, 2024 11:38 PM |
I've heard Frank Oz isn't the easiest person to work with. And let's be honest, you wouldn't expect any less of the man behind Miss Piggy.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | November 24, 2024 11:39 PM |
[QUOTE] She got a nomination for Silkwood and won for Moonstruck. She was also snubbed for Mask.
Your phrasing was in the wrong order in your original post.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | November 24, 2024 11:41 PM |
Cher doesn’t get enough credit for being a slut and a prostitute.
Her list of lovers is long and she also dated David Geffen in the 70s when she desperately needed cash.
Her non-stop cuntiness routine also wears thin after a while.
Didn’t she also say some nonsense last year that her sucky Christmas record was the best Christmas record since Mariah’s? It was just bad Cher dance music.
Delusional old bat. I hope Chaz has the papers ready to put her in a home.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | November 24, 2024 11:42 PM |
i’ve seen silkwood, mask, and moonstruck.
IMO, not a great actress. almost like stunt-casting and I wanted to like her in these roles.
In silkwood, it seemed like someone with a makeunder, trying to be subdued.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | November 24, 2024 11:44 PM |
Sally Kirkland name-checks her in her new movie “Sallywood.”
by Anonymous | reply 24 | November 24, 2024 11:44 PM |
Val Kilmer ended their relationship. Cher was in love with him - peak looks val kilmer.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | November 24, 2024 11:45 PM |
bogdanovich seems like an asshole. he actually thinks he’s attractive.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | November 24, 2024 11:48 PM |
[quote] Val Kilmer ended their relationship.
The only sane thing he ever did.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | November 24, 2024 11:48 PM |
She’s well-preserved, for sure. But that face is becoming more and more simian with each procedure.
I’d say someone should stop her but I want you to see her go full “Planet of the Apes.”
by Anonymous | reply 28 | November 24, 2024 11:50 PM |
R24. Sally Kirkland has a new movie?!
by Anonymous | reply 29 | November 24, 2024 11:53 PM |
Bette Midler also had issues with Frank Oz. But Midler can be a cunt, too.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | November 24, 2024 11:58 PM |
Cher loves to project her street-smart, take-no-crap cred, but she comes across as a very stupid person. She doesn’t even seem like she could balance a checkbook.
It’s one thing to defy the construct of age. It’s another to act like a dopey teenager at 80.
Isn’t she currently banging a 30-year-old and actually thinks he’s in love with her?
I think she’s functionally retarded.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | November 25, 2024 12:00 AM |
Well, she was amazing in Mask. Whatever Bogdanovich was doing it worked.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | November 25, 2024 12:03 AM |
Bogdanovich was a piece of shit.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | November 25, 2024 12:04 AM |
R28, extensive plastic surgery does not equate well preserved
by Anonymous | reply 35 | November 25, 2024 12:10 AM |
And she has the nerve to call me a cunt!
by Anonymous | reply 36 | November 25, 2024 12:13 AM |
Remember Cher’s old Bally’s ads?
It’s hysterical people thinking Cher would slum it with the commoners on communal gym equipment.
She’ll do anything for a buck.
What a bitch.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | November 25, 2024 12:15 AM |
Does she talk in the book about how she fucked Warren Beatty when she was 16 just so she could say she fucked him?
Cher is truly a tramp’s tramp.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | November 25, 2024 12:20 AM |
Her mom encouraged her in that relationship with Beatty, IIRC.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | November 25, 2024 12:25 AM |
Does she get to the Lori Davis dirt in this book or in the second volume?
I'm sure that stuff will be riveting.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | November 25, 2024 12:30 AM |
Bogdanovich was a bitch - always
But he knew where his bread was buttered. Streisand got way better treatment because of her STATUS even though you worshipping gays discount it.
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by Anonymous | reply 44 | November 25, 2024 12:54 AM |
I agree she was great in Silkwood, an underrated movie. Streep was top of her game too.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | November 25, 2024 1:13 AM |
She casually mentions in the book a run-in she had with Bogdonavich years before Mask. He was an asshole then too.
She does tell the story of sleeping with Warren Beatty.
I find her to be self-aware and honest in ways that most of us are not.
Most of the nattering that above posters are using to paint her in a negative light she claims and makes no excuses for.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | November 25, 2024 1:55 AM |
Loved her in Tea With Mussolini as well, playing effortlessly with Dame Maggie and the gals
by Anonymous | reply 47 | November 25, 2024 2:04 AM |
[quote] But Midler can be a cunt, too.
No kidding.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | November 25, 2024 2:09 AM |
Cher's wigs are looking wack, these days. Who is supposed to be helping her with her wigs?
by Anonymous | reply 49 | November 25, 2024 2:10 AM |
I like Mermaids.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | November 25, 2024 2:18 AM |
I finished reading her memoir over the weekend. She talks mainly about her mom and Sonny. There’s clearly a lot of resentment there. Like most celebrity memoirs, I think she holds back a lot and doesn’t give the full story.
After she divorces Sonny the book kind of drags on and isn’t very interesting. The book could have easily been cut down but apparently there’s a part 2 coming out.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | November 25, 2024 2:20 AM |
Cher will not leave us like Betty White, loved by all, or like Tina Turner, respected by all. She was good early with Sonny and in Moostruck. Her long Infomercial phase was above average.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | November 25, 2024 2:29 AM |
Well, she called the book "Part One," so she's saving some "good stuff" for Part Two. How much more money does she need (income from 2 books instead of 1).
Her mom sounded like a bad mother, frankly. How can you be married that many times and bring that many random men into a house full of girls (daughters). But her mom seems to be a sacred cow.
Babs is probably wishing she had thought of doing Part I and Part II.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | November 25, 2024 2:31 AM |
R52. Cher wasn't in "Moostruck." That's was Meghan McCain's first lead role.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | November 25, 2024 2:31 AM |
As if you wouldn't date a younger guy in a hot second, r32. How do you know he doesn't love her? Parasocial weirdo.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | November 25, 2024 2:32 AM |
Always liked her. Even more so now.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | November 25, 2024 2:37 AM |
When does part two come out? Is this like Wicked, one year between releases?
by Anonymous | reply 57 | November 25, 2024 3:02 AM |
She said in an interview that the next book is Xmas 2025
by Anonymous | reply 58 | November 25, 2024 3:10 AM |
[quote]he actually thinks he’s attractive.
Not anymore.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | November 25, 2024 3:11 AM |
This matches with my views on Bogdanovich, at least
by Anonymous | reply 60 | November 25, 2024 3:12 AM |
Ya gotta love DL...a gay chat site where there's always gay cunts to run down our divas!
I believe Cher stepped back from film because she was sick for several years.
Doesn't Part One of the book end around 1980?
by Anonymous | reply 61 | November 25, 2024 3:19 AM |
She say anything about Sam Elliott from Mask? I thought he was so hot as Gar.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | November 25, 2024 3:20 AM |
[quote]She fought and begged to be a movie star and then threw it all away because music was more lucrative. What has she done, seven or eight movies total She deserves no respect as an actress and even less as a human.
Oh, my.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | November 25, 2024 3:22 AM |
In Living Color also did a Lori Davis parody.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | November 25, 2024 3:25 AM |
[quote]Bogdanovich was a piece of shit.—Polly Platt
With Polly by his side, Bogdanovich directed 3 masterpieces: Last Picture Show, Paper Moon, and What's Up Doc. Then he dumped her, and never directed a really great movie again.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | November 25, 2024 3:31 AM |
Bogdanovich's opinion of Cher is pretty meaningless considering he thought Dorothy Stratten was the next Garbo.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | November 25, 2024 3:42 AM |
Peters muse was not Polly Platt. Let’s make that PERFECTLY clear.
And what did she do after him?
Exactly.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | November 25, 2024 3:46 AM |
“Assholes!”
by Anonymous | reply 68 | November 25, 2024 3:50 AM |
I love Cher in Suspect. And what a crazy surprise ending in the courtroom.
Dennis Quaid at his hottest.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | November 25, 2024 3:57 AM |
Peter B. left Polly Platt for Cybill Shepherd.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | November 25, 2024 4:03 AM |
There we were, four grown women dancing in the streets in shorts and high heels. We knew we looked hot. That's the whole idea. I don't bust my buns for nothing.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | November 25, 2024 4:12 AM |
[quote] She was great in Mask.
I thought her performance is "Mask" was better than "Moonstruck." I believe the Academy gave her Glenn Close's Oscar because she did not get a nomination for "Mask."
by Anonymous | reply 72 | November 25, 2024 4:33 AM |
IMO, her performance in Mask was better than in Moonstruck.
Side note: I had a roommate who was tall, with a bushy mustache, who kind of talked like Sam Elliott.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | November 25, 2024 4:36 AM |
I watched Mask semi-recently and noticed that Cher and Rocky's house is one block over from the house my grandmother lived in for decades. (Monrovia, CA)
I like to imagine she was chain-smoking and playing with her cats while Cher filmed a movie 300 feet away.
by Anonymous | reply 74 | November 25, 2024 4:49 AM |
Mask takes place in the same cinematic neighbourhood as Erin Brockovich.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | November 25, 2024 5:02 AM |
Moonstruck was the best script ste ever worked with.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | November 25, 2024 5:03 AM |
So Part One ends around 1980…? What, is she like, “And then I triumphantly released my disco album, Take Me Home and roller-skated with my tits in a see-through top…”
by Anonymous | reply 77 | November 25, 2024 5:05 AM |
All these low rent DL-era making all these derogatory remarks about Barbra just because Cher has released a memoir.
Kittens, Barbra didn’t spend nearly three decades trying to convince people she had talent. Get over it.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | November 25, 2024 5:07 AM |
In his memoir, Eric Roberts says that his then girlfriend Sandy Dennis and Cher became good friends while acting in "Come Back to the Five and Dime..." on Broadway.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | November 25, 2024 5:14 AM |
Did Sonny and Cher at least love each other when they put out “I Got You Babe”?
by Anonymous | reply 80 | November 25, 2024 5:31 AM |
Sandy Dennis was a lesbian.
by Anonymous | reply 81 | November 25, 2024 5:44 AM |
She reportedly clashed with Lasse Hallstrom on Mermaids as he was the first director. Does she say she hated him too?
by Anonymous | reply 82 | November 25, 2024 5:46 AM |
Richard Benjamin directed Mermaids.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | November 25, 2024 5:49 AM |
She said Hallstrom was "nuts."
by Anonymous | reply 84 | November 25, 2024 5:56 AM |
Saw her on Howard Stern. She's pretty surface. Not dumb, but not a blazing intellect. Seems like a nice person.
by Anonymous | reply 85 | November 25, 2024 6:06 AM |
Why did she refer to Silkwood as "my first movie" in her Oscar speech? She was in at least three other films before that.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | November 25, 2024 6:12 AM |
1965Wild on the Beach 1967Good Times 1969Chastity 1982Come Back to the Five and Dime, Jimmy Dean, Jimmy Dean
by Anonymous | reply 88 | November 25, 2024 7:09 AM |
Bogdanovich was a renowned pig long before Cher was directed by him. Surely she knew already.
by Anonymous | reply 89 | November 25, 2024 11:02 AM |
She could have done the years after 1980 in 15 pages, no need for another volume.
by Anonymous | reply 91 | November 25, 2024 12:34 PM |
Frank Oz's relationships with everyone he has worked with is prickly at best. That is, of course, unless you spent time with him in the 70s while having your hand up a foam/ felt animal's arse and sniffing someone else's armpits- then he's a wonderful guy. He was particularly "close" with the guy with the frog.
by Anonymous | reply 92 | November 25, 2024 12:39 PM |
"Relationships were prickly". Oh, for the need of an edit feature.
by Anonymous | reply 93 | November 25, 2024 12:47 PM |
What movies did Cher turn down?
by Anonymous | reply 94 | November 25, 2024 1:52 PM |
R94, Cher was strongly considered for Anjelica Huston’s roles in ‘The Witches’ and ‘The Addams Family,’ and Huston was a finalist for at least one of the plum roles that went to Cher in the mid ‘80s - early ‘90s.
by Anonymous | reply 95 | November 25, 2024 2:12 PM |
Cher for The Grifters
by Anonymous | reply 96 | November 25, 2024 2:14 PM |
Just go away old lady.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | November 25, 2024 2:19 PM |
How far does Book One cover?
Is this including Movie Cher or is it all Sonny and Cher stuff?
by Anonymous | reply 98 | November 25, 2024 3:31 PM |
I Feel for the directors who had to work with her-she has all the answers. She won an Oscar for Moon Struck? Must have been a low bar for best actresses that year.
by Anonymous | reply 99 | November 25, 2024 4:19 PM |
100!
by Anonymous | reply 100 | November 25, 2024 4:22 PM |
[Quote]The next morning he arrives on set, eating an egg sandwich
It's the detail that really makes an anecdote pop
by Anonymous | reply 101 | November 25, 2024 4:23 PM |
I imagine she was disgusted by little bits of egg flying from his mouth as he ranted and raved.
by Anonymous | reply 102 | November 25, 2024 4:27 PM |
I imagine she was disappointed that he didn’t offer her half.
by Anonymous | reply 103 | November 25, 2024 5:11 PM |
I didn't know Polly Platt wrote Good Luck, Miss Wyckoff, one of the most repellent movies of al time. Based on a William Inge's novel, Ann Heywood, in another of her sexually repressed roles, is brutally and viciously raped by a black man. She realizes that she loved it. He continues to brutalize her but it can't be considered rape anymore since Heywood is passively accepting it. The town finds out and she's the outcast, not the rapist. When I saw it, I thought the writer had to be one seriously fucked up person.
by Anonymous | reply 104 | November 25, 2024 5:22 PM |
[quote] She realizes that she loved it.
Who wouldn't love it?! John Lafayette was smoking hot in that film!
by Anonymous | reply 105 | November 25, 2024 5:30 PM |
R104, never heard of that movie.
Polly Platt may have been a glutton for punishment or a masochist. Peter B. and Cybill Shepherd were having their affair out in the open (on set of Last Picture Show). Platt continued to do stuff like curl Cybill's hair.
Peter B. ended up in a relationship with Dorothy Stratten's (Playboy model) sister after DS was murdered.
Peter B. was good in the role of Melfi's psychiatrist on the Sopranos. I think the character was close to his personality, down to the water bottle.
by Anonymous | reply 106 | November 25, 2024 9:52 PM |
Cher will never be a grandmother. Her kids despise her.
Very selfish bitch.
by Anonymous | reply 107 | November 25, 2024 10:00 PM |
I remember Polly Platt on an E! “documentary” about 25+ years ago where she relished saying that while dating Barbra Streisand, Ryan O’Neal was also seeing multiple other women. She and Barbra not only worked together more than once, they were friends too. Hmmm.
by Anonymous | reply 108 | November 25, 2024 10:18 PM |
R55 = Martha Raye
by Anonymous | reply 109 | November 25, 2024 10:20 PM |
She loved Norman Jewison who directed her in Moonstruck and the way the cinematographer lit her for that film , she told me yes know her. Took her mom Georgia to that premiere with her hairdresser.
by Anonymous | reply 110 | November 25, 2024 10:22 PM |
R110 = Teacake, hoping McDonald’s is open on Thanksgiving.
by Anonymous | reply 111 | November 25, 2024 10:23 PM |
Even Meryl Streep said Cher ghosts and dumps people. She is not a good person.
by Anonymous | reply 112 | November 25, 2024 10:26 PM |
Link, R112?
by Anonymous | reply 113 | November 25, 2024 11:00 PM |
That detail instantly makes him sound like a slovenly fuck, r101.
I'm imagining his shirt was partially untucked, his fly was down and he had toilet paper stuck to his shoe.
by Anonymous | reply 114 | November 25, 2024 11:35 PM |
[quote]Sally Kirkland name-checks her in her new movie “Sallywood.”
Well, I know one person not donating to Kirkland's GoFundMe. Big mistake. HUGE.
by Anonymous | reply 115 | November 26, 2024 12:05 AM |
R82 & R84, a 1990 article about Mermaids:
[quote]The shoot, it turned out, proved to be a baptism by fire. Director No. 1 Lasse Hallstrom (“My Life as a Dog”) was banished when he determined to have the character of Charlotte’s younger sister (Christina Ricci) commit suicide--a plot twist deemed far-fetched by Cher. Frank Oz (“Little Shop of Horrors”), director No. 2, tried to turn the drama into “Greek tragedy,” says Cher, devoid of irony and comedy. Emily Lloyd, initially lined up for the role of Charlotte, was replaced by Ryder, who, according to Cher, was considered a better genetic fit.
[quote]“Noni and I had some catastrophic days and we cried a lot,” Cher says. “Both of us were insecure being told that our instincts weren’t on target. Noni was battling insomnia and chewing her nails up to her elbow. If I wasn’t so strong and she so trusting we would never have gotten through it. I literally took her by the hand and said ‘jump’--and she did. We were like sisters. We lived together, hung out a lot, and got a lot of strength from each other.” Depp, who visited the set intermittently, remembers it well. “There were a lot of long-distance phone calls,” he says. “A lot of Ma Bell. Cher was a real rock for Winona, a pretty tough lady. I wouldn’t want to go rounds with her.”
[quote]Though Ryder downplays her role in the turmoil, producer Patrick Palmer does not. “Winona led to Frank’s leaving as much as Cher did,” he states, referring to Oz’s dismissal. “I was surprised she articulated things so well.” The arrival of Richard Benjamin improved things considerably
by Anonymous | reply 116 | November 26, 2024 1:08 AM |
[quote]Glenn Close's Oscar
Three words you'll never see together again.
by Anonymous | reply 117 | November 26, 2024 1:10 AM |
[quote]Brando asked Frank Oz if he wanted to stick his hand up his ass. Maybe the Muppet guy was the problem.
Agreed, R7. Brando had a reputation, but Frank Oz also has a history of being an asshole.
[quote][bold]AVC: What was your first impression of Marlon Brando?[/bold]
[quote]FO: Well, first impression is unfair, because a first impression of somebody is guarded, and you don't know the person. I think after I'd had a couple of two-hour meetings with him, personally and quietly in his home, and we worked for three weeks together… And it was a hellish time, very, very tough time for him and me. But I thought after a while, first impressions are the impressions that anybody gets, looking at Marlon Brando in a newspaper. So that doesn't help. The actual person inside, I think he was tortured. I think he was distrustful, and I think he was a genius, and I think he was wonderfully childlike and innocent and very tender and sincere and sensitive.
[quote][bold]AVC: It was the first studio production he had been in, in many years.[/bold]
[quote]FO: Yeah, and not 'cause of me. He didn't know who I was. I think it was because of Bob and the money.
[quote][bold]AVC: Because of the stories about him, did you prepare yourself for the worst?[/bold]
[quote]FO: I prepared myself too well. I told myself I would not allow him to turn this into The Island Of Dr. Moreau. I would not let him take over. And I was just wrong. I was not nurturing, so it is my fault, so we clashed very badly.
by Anonymous | reply 118 | November 26, 2024 1:21 AM |
R91 Yes, because nothing interesting happened to Cher after 1980.
Like:
Her film career
Her Oscar
Chaz coming out as lesbian then trans
Sonny's Death
The Infomercial Years
Some of her biggest music hits
Yeah, that's all best summed up in 15 pages.
by Anonymous | reply 119 | November 26, 2024 1:31 AM |
She was so grateful to Sonny for dying-her eulogy for him about her brought her back to the public’s attention.
by Anonymous | reply 120 | November 26, 2024 1:35 AM |
She changed the face of music!
by Anonymous | reply 121 | November 26, 2024 1:36 AM |
It would have been funny if she had made a cockroach joke in the title of the memoir. Maybe part two?
by Anonymous | reply 122 | November 26, 2024 2:01 AM |
R119, I’d give it 25 pages.
by Anonymous | reply 123 | November 26, 2024 2:04 AM |
My mother has a similar personality. She hates men but clings to them like a parasite. Cher's successes have always been hitched her latest guy.
by Anonymous | reply 124 | November 26, 2024 2:10 AM |
‘Atta girl! 🤗
by Anonymous | reply 125 | November 26, 2024 2:14 AM |
It's weird that she didn't go into her movie career.
I can understand wanting to gloss over the other stuff like the shampoo infomercials and dust-ups with her children.
by Anonymous | reply 127 | November 26, 2024 3:16 AM |
R127 The book is in two parts. Part 1 goes up to about 1980 (apparently).
by Anonymous | reply 128 | November 26, 2024 3:59 AM |
About ten years ago, a writer/editor named Victoria Wilson published a heavy Vol 1 bio of screen legend Barbara Stanwyck that contained waaaay too much information, but only covered 1907 to 1940. The interesting part, 1941 to 1990, was supposed to be Vol 2. It NEVER was published.
by Anonymous | reply 129 | November 26, 2024 9:09 PM |
R130. 41 to 90...the Lezbo years.
by Anonymous | reply 130 | November 26, 2024 9:50 PM |
[quote]Peters muse was not Polly Platt. Let’s make that PERFECTLY clear. And what did she do after him? Exactly.
I'll say one thing for Polly Platt, she didn't direct Nickelodeon.
by Anonymous | reply 131 | November 26, 2024 9:51 PM |
Talking to yourself again, R130?
by Anonymous | reply 132 | November 27, 2024 12:15 AM |